Hungary 1786-B thaler Dav-1169B

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Jean Elsen sale 121, lot 1039
Hungary 1786 thaler rev JElsen 121-1039.jpg
This specimen was lot 1039 in Jean Elsen sale 121 (Brussels, June 2014), where it sold for €160 (about US$256 including buyers' fees). The catalog description[1] noted,
"SAINT EMPIRE, Joseph II (1765-1790), AR Taler, 1786 B, Kremnitz. Type hongrois. Droit: Ecu austro-hongrois sous une couronne tenue par deux anges, au-dessus de deux rameaux. Revers: La Madone à l'enfant sur une nuée. Nettoyé. Trace de bélière. Très Beau à Superbe. (Holy Roman Empire, Joseph II (1765-90), silver thaler of 1786, Kremnitz mint, Hungarian type. Obverse: Austro-Hungarian arms below two angels supporting a crown, two palm branches below; reverse: Madonna and Child on a cloud. Cleaned, trace of mounting, very fine to extremely fine.)"
Hungary in 1786 was firmly under Austrian rule but was not part of the Empire. This type, struck 1786 only, is scarce tho Dav-1169A, without mintmark, is common.

Recorded mintage: unknown.

Specification: 28.06 g, .833 fine silver, this specimen 27,97 g.

Catalog reference: Dav-1169B; Her., 149; Huszar, 1871, KM 400.2.


  • Michael, Thomas, Standard Catalog of World Coins, 1701-1800, 7th ed., Iola, WI: Krause Publications, 2016.
  • Davenport, John S., European Crowns, 1700-1800, 2nd Ed., London: Spink & Son, 1964.
  • [1]Elsen, Philippe, et al., Vente Publique 121, Brussels: Jean Elsen et ses Fils S.A., 2014.

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